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  1. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:06
    quote:

    Durfinvest schreef:

    [quote=sidious]
    dat denk ik dus ook
    [/quote]Preferente aandelen: geven voor alle overige aandelen recht op een vast dividend. Het dividend is een vast percentage van de nominale waarde. Bij ontbinding van het bedrijf worden ze ook voor de andere terugbetaald. Dit geldt voor de financieringsprefs. Een ander type, de beschermingsprefs, geeft geen vast recht op dividend, maar is bedoeld als wapen in de strijd tegen ongewenste overnames.
    Cumulatief preferente aandelen: zijn gelijk aan preferente aandelen, geven recht op een vast jaarlijks dividend, maar mocht het bedrijf een aantal jaren slecht draaien en wordt er geen dividend uitgekeerd, dan blijft het recht daarop bij deze aandelen bestaan. Draait het bedrijf weer goed dan dient met terugwerkende kracht het dividend uitbetaald te worden. ______________________________________________ onze belangen zullen op de allerlaatste plaats komen en dus het eerste waardeloos worden,de preferente aandelhouders hebben voorang als het fout gaat!
    "WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Officials from the U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac (FRE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) met on Wednesday to reach a decision on the government plan outlined in mid-July. The U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac has reached the decision to recapitalize the current equity by funding the preferred shares with approximately 15.4 Billion.

    The Treasury will effectively purchase 7.6 Billion worth of preferred shares on Sept 1st, 2008. The remaining shares will be purchased on October 1st, 2008.

    The transaction will render common shares worthless."
  2. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:14
    quote:

    dct schreef:

    [quote=sidious]
    ok maar wat gebeurt er met de aandeelhouders?
    [/quote]
    nul komma nul
    Als er toch nog plots een prachtig pb. komt zal het een gekkenhuis omhoog worden,dan kopen de enorme partijen shorts tegen elke prijs terug,en iedereen tuimelt dan over elkaar heen om mee te vliegen,hahaha.
  3. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:25
    quote:

    maurice43 schreef:

    ik vind het in ieder geval een gokje waard.
    ik denk dat ze deze twee banken kosten wat het kost willen redden,
    Ja ik denk ook nog steeds zo,maar ik dacht dat bij indymac ook laatst...heeft me vele vele k,s gekost !,was er voor de gok op 0,63 ingesprongen(stond even ervoor nog op 8$!) en staat nu op 0,09..het blijft een 100% gok nu als je geen voorkennis hebt dit.
  4. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:30

    [/quote]"WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Officials from the U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac (FRE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) met on Wednesday to reach a decision on the government plan outlined in mid-July. The U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac has reached the decision to recapitalize the current equity by funding the preferred shares with approximately 15.4 Billion.

    The Treasury will effectively purchase 7.6 Billion worth of preferred shares on Sept 1st, 2008. The remaining shares will be purchased on October 1st, 2008.

    The transaction will render common shares worthless."
    [/quote]
    PLAATSEN VAN VALSE BERICHTEN IS VERBODEN
    WWW.REUTERS.COM
  5. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:32
    "WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Officials from the U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac (FRE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) met on Wednesday to reach a decision on the government plan outlined in mid-July. The U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac has reached the decision to recapitalize the current equity by funding the preferred shares with approximately 15.4 Billion.

    The Treasury will effectively purchase 7.6 Billion worth of preferred shares on Sept 1st, 2008. The remaining shares will be purchased on October 1st, 2008.

    The transaction will render common shares worthless."

    ER STAAT TOCH DUIDELIJK 1 OKTOBER
  6. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:38
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Officials from the U.S. Treasury and Freddie Mac (FRE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) met on Wednesday to talk about the company's health and how it can best weather the current economic woes in light of mounting credit losses, sources familiar with the meeting said.

    The meeting between staff at the mortgage-finance company and Treasury was one of several that have taken place since mid-July when the government outlined a plan to back up the company and its sibling agency, Fannie Mae (FNM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), as investors fret about the health of the two firms.

    The meeting took place as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shares plunged on Wednesday amid speculation that some sort of government intervention would be needed to backstop the nation's two largest sources of mortgage finance.

  7. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 13:43
    de preferente aandeelhouders krijgen een fooi en de gewone aandeelhouders kunnen 1 oktober nog voor
    0,01 hun aandelen verkopen.
    de bedrijven zijn dan gered maar de aandeelhouders niet.
  8. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 14:03
    quote:

    Durfinvest schreef:

    Gaat weer hard verder down !!...weer alle 2 dik 10% lager voorbeurs.
    paniekzaaierij in de voorbeurs handel.
    is maar met 45k.
  9. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 14:46
    nee
    er is meer aan de hand...

    Fannie, Freddie shares fall again in premarket

    By John Spence
    Last update: 8:07 a.m. EDT Aug. 21, 2008
    BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Shares of government-sponsored mortgage entities Fannie Mae (FNM:Fannie Mae FNM 4.46, -1.55, -25.8%) continued their slide in premarket trading Thursday morning. The two stocks were among the largest off-hour percentage decliners according to FactSet, slipping more than 6% at last check on growing speculation a bailout of the mortgage giants is inevitable. Elsewhere in financial stocks, Ambac Financial Group Inc. and Lehman Brothers Holdings continued to fall in premarket after steep declines on Wednesday.
  10. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 14:50
    Ze gaan onder groot volume weer dik 10% verder naar onder,zat gisteren in de nabeurs nog te twijfelen (het is zo verleidelijk) om 00:15 om nog in te stappen maar gelukkig niet meer gedaan,het voelde niet lekker,is een 100% gok en daar stop ik mee,ik hou mijn vingers wel aan de knoppen om in te vliegen als het tij alsnog keert.
  11. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 14:52
    quote:

    lijkenpikker schreef:

    nee
    er is meer aan de hand...

    Fannie, Freddie shares fall again in premarket

    By John Spence
    Last update: 8:07 a.m. EDT Aug. 21, 2008
    BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Shares of government-sponsored mortgage entities Fannie Mae (FNM:Fannie Mae FNM 4.46, -1.55, -25.8%) continued their slide in premarket trading Thursday morning. The two stocks were among the largest off-hour percentage decliners according to FactSet, slipping more than 6% at last check on growing speculation a bailout of the mortgage giants is inevitable. Elsewhere in financial stocks, Ambac Financial Group Inc. and Lehman Brothers Holdings continued to fall in premarket after steep declines on Wednesday.
    als ze van de beurs gehaald worden dan kan het hard omhoog.
    dan is het grootste zwaard van Damocles verdwenen
  12. [verwijderd] 21 augustus 2008 15:07
    Why I Finally Bought Fannie Mae

    I finally bought Fannie Mae (FNM) yesterday at $4.77 after it had fallen another 20% on the day.

    Even though it fell another 10% before finally closing at $4.40, I believe it will be a great trade in the end.

    My reasoning is that there is no way that the government can allow Fannie and Freddie (FRE) to fail, or let the common shareholders be wiped out. To do so would signal the total failure of capitalism, and the collapse of the US economy, not unlike the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    These are not just a couple of publicly traded banks that got in trouble. They are at the very heart of our economy.

    It is common knowledge that these two institutions are in a lot of financial trouble and that they may even be insolvent at this point. But we have to look at how they got there, and who should bear the responsibility for reviving them. Their primary mission has been to carry out a government mandate to provide backing for mortgages in order to raise the standard of living for all Americans. They have carried out that mission with the backing of the stockholders since 1938. There is no doubt that all Americans have benefited, even those who have never had a mortgage. It is therefore the responsibility of the US government to right this ship.

    I have always had conventional fixed loans and have never been late on a payment. I have been working and paying taxes since I was 12 years old and I am as mad as anyone about how we got into this mortgage mess and about what must happen next. This is going to cost taxpayers dearly now and in the future. But, to do nothing, as many hard line capitalists advocate, would cost us all much more. The ripple effects of letting Fannie and Freddie fail would be catastrophic both here and abroad since many foreign entities are also involved.

    As Jim Cramer suggested yesterday, the SEC should immediately stop naked short selling and stop trading of these securities until a viable plan for recovery can be worked out. My suggestion is an open-ended interest-free loan to be paid back to the US Treasury. The pay back period and terms could be reviewed and revised each month until the loan is retired. Congress should also act immediately to allow mortgage holders to pay off their mortgages with their IRA funds, without penalty or taxes, in order to inject liquidity into the system. Everyone would benefit form this and it would be a huge boost to the economy.

    From StreetInsider.Com:

    Ga zn voorbeeld volgen.
    Alléén voor manne met harde balle!!!
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