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  1. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 10:17

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    W-0803 schreef op 15 december 2022 10:11:

    Thanks ridder, 500 piek pakt.
    Ik stel voor dat je deze winst overmaakt naar het Rode Kruis tbv Oekraïne:

    Giro 5125 of IBAN NL02 INGB 0000 0051 25
  2. forum rang 5 posilies 15 december 2022 10:20

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    HobbyBeurs schreef op 15 december 2022 10:05:

    [...]
    Dat moet toch niet lekker voelen nu.
    ik ben nog gezond, het is niet leuk maar we zien wel, ik verkoop niets.
  3. uniekealias 15 december 2022 10:23

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    Lees hier al een tijdje mee, interessant wat er nu gebeurd.

    Wat denken jullie van de verschillende publicaties op www.steinhoffinternational.com/sens.php ?

    Op zelfde dag/moment wordt aangekondigd in de trading statement;

    Accordingly, a review of the financial results for the year ended 30 September 2022 by
    management has indicated, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that for Steinhoff Investments:

    • earnings per ordinary share is expected to be between 25 000.0 cents and 27 000.0 cents
    compared to 11 685.5 cents in the previous corresponding period; and
    • headline earnings per ordinary share is expected to be between 26 000.0 cents and 28
    000.0 cents compared to 11 843.6 cents in the previous corresponding period.

    Kan me voorstellen dat je liever geen nieuwe schulden verstrekt maar er meer aan hebt om het bedrijf over te nemen....
  4. forum rang 8 objectief 15 december 2022 10:25

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    hanssalot schreef op 15 december 2022 10:09:

    denk eind van de dag wel weer €0.09 / A €0.10 , en daarna rustig stijgen naar € 0.30 A €0.38
    Als dit uitkomt, dan lezen we morgen waarschijnlijk verschillende berichten over de verlaagde GAK door bijkopen vandaag.
    Om dat voor te zijn: zojuist 25% van mijn positie verhoogd.
  5. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 10:34

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    uniekealias schreef op 15 december 2022 10:23:

    Lees hier al een tijdje mee, interessant wat er nu gebeurd.

    Wat denken jullie van de verschillende publicaties op www.steinhoffinternational.com/sens.php ?

    Op zelfde dag/moment wordt aangekondigd in de trading statement;

    Accordingly, a review of the financial results for the year ended 30 September 2022 by
    management has indicated, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that for Steinhoff Investments:
    • earnings per ordinary share is expected to be between 25 000.0 cents and 27 000.0 cents
    compared to 11 685.5 cents in the previous corresponding period; and
    • headline earnings per ordinary share is expected to be between 26 000.0 cents and 28
    000.0 cents compared to 11 843.6 cents in the previous corresponding period.
    Kan me voorstellen dat je liever geen nieuwe schulden verstrekt maar er meer aan hebt om het bedrijf over te nemen....
    Steinhoff Investments is een ander bedrijf en is niet van belang.
  6. forum rang 5 Altijd prijs 15 december 2022 10:35

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    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 15 december 2022 09:10:

    [...]
    Er staan veel te veel vreemde afkortingen en moeilijke woorden in het nieuwsbericht.........
    Je heldere uitleg en reacties zijn top!
  7. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 10:35

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    josti5 schreef op 15 december 2022 09:44:

    [...]Ja: slikken of stikken.
    Vraag is wel, of dit allemaal zó maar kan.
    Het kon immers ook bij Versatel en Getronics..........
  9. forum rang 7 Ron Kerstens 15 december 2022 10:37

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    Bij welke broker zitten jullie dat je die aandelen op Frankfurt kan kopen ? Bij mijn brokers staan ze op reduce only en kan ik alleen op Johannesburg de aandelen voor ca 100 rand (0,054) kopen ?
  10. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 10:39

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    Ron Kerstens schreef op 15 december 2022 10:37:

    Bij welke broker zitten jullie dat je die aandelen op Frankfurt kan kopen ? Bij mijn brokers staan ze op reduce only en kan ik alleen op Johannesburg de aandelen voor ca 100 rand (0,054) kopen ?
    Ik heb er voor gezorgd dat je bij IB kunt kopen in Frankfurt.
  12. Glenny300 15 december 2022 10:43

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    Ron Kerstens schreef op 15 december 2022 10:37:

    Bij welke broker zitten jullie dat je die aandelen op Frankfurt kan kopen ? Bij mijn brokers staan ze op reduce only en kan ik alleen op Johannesburg de aandelen voor ca 100 rand (0,054) kopen ?
    ABN AMRO
  13. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 10:47

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    Overview of Proposed Equity Re-organisation

    In light of the assessment that the value of the Group’s assets continue to be less than its
    liabilities and will remain so as at 30 June 2023, and subject to further due diligence and
    structuring, the commercial terms of the Maturity Extension Transaction provide that the
    individual CPU creditors will be entitled to receive equity in SIHNV (or any successor entity
    or other entity replacing SIHNV as ultimate parent of the Group). The Maturity Extension
    Transaction proposes that the financial creditors will be entitled, individually and
    independently, to receive 100% of the voting rights and at least 80% of the economic
    interest in the post-closing equity of the Group.

    The remaining 20% of economic interests in the post-closing equity of the Group will be
    issued to existing shareholders in the form of a new instrument ranking economically pari
    passu with the equity instruments issued to the financial creditors, provided that the equity
    re-organisation is approved by shareholders at a general meeting to be held in Q1 2023.

    If the Maturity Extension Transaction proceeds, then in view of:

    • the fact that the individual financial creditors will obtain independent voting rights and
    (at least) 80% of the potential economic interest in the post-closing equity of the Group
    as a condition to extending the maturity dates of the Group Services Debt; and

    • the very material extent to which the equity interest currently is, and expected to
    remain, out of the money,

    the expectation is that on or following implementation of the Maturity Extension Transaction
    the existing SIHNV shares, and their current listings, will fall away, with no financial
    compensation payable to existing shareholders (except for the shareholders retaining the
    20% economic interest in the post-closing equity of the Group if the equity re-organisation
    is approved by shareholders at a general meeting as explained above). The ultimate
    holding company of the restructured Group is anticipated to be an unlisted company.

    The final terms of the implementation in relation to future equity structure remain to be
    finalised.
    If the equity restructuring referred to in the preceding paragraphs is not approved by the
    shareholders at the general meeting, it is intended that 100% of the economic interests and
    voting rights in the post-closing equity of the Group will be issued to the individual financial
    creditors either through a Dutch restructuring process or, if that is not pursued or is not
    achieved by 30 June 2023, as a result of the financial creditors becoming entitled to
    implement the equity reorganisation by way of a share pledge enforcement alongside the
    implementation of other terms of the Maturity Extension Transaction. In these
    circumstances, SIHNV would lose its interests in the underlying Group businesses and assets
    and shareholders would retain no economic interest in the restructured Group.

    Overview of Considerations

    As previously reported, Steinhoff currently has Group Services Debt totalling c. EUR10 billion
    which has a maturity date of 30 June 2023.

    The Group Services Debt is disclosed under Corporate and Treasury Services in note 10 of
    SIHNV’s unaudited results for the six months ended 31 March 2022. The Group Services Debt
    Facilities are held by a number of different financial creditors some of whom are invested
    across a number of Group Services Debt Facilities.

    Extending the maturity date of debt of this quantum and complexity would be an extremely
    difficult and complex task in normal markets, however the nature of the agreements,
    together with the developments during the year including those listed below, have made
    this process even more challenging:

    • There are complexities inherent in the nature of the Group Services Debt, including cross
    defaults, inter-connectivity and multiple investors each with unique time horizons and
    interests.

    • The current global uncertainties have increased both risk aversion and interest rates.

    • The market values of Steinhoff’s operating entities (ultimately the underlying security for
    the Group Services Debt) have been under pressure broadly in line with the global
    capital markets.

    • By contrast, the significant liabilities under the Group Services Debt continue to accrue
    interest at material levels.

    Consequently, to date it has not been possible to de-lever the Group through investment
    and asset disposals and/or refinancing as quickly as originally anticipated.

    In order to maintain the financial stability and therefore avoid the consequences of the
    Group Services Debt maturing on 30 June 2023, the proposed extension and related terms
    addresses the total Group Services Debt and allows further time to fully realise the Group’s
    investments and assets.

    Next steps

    Steinhoff contemplates that the next steps are as follows:
    • Engagement with the Group’s financial creditors to seek further support for the
    proposed terms and accessions by the financial creditors to the Support Agreement
    before the Early Bird Deadline.

    • Further development and finalisation of terms of the proposed extension and
    agreement on long form documentation.

    • Seeking the necessary financial creditor and regulatory approvals required, as well as
    approval from the shareholders at a general meeting, and/or, if necessary, court
    approvals in one or more relevant jurisdictions.

    Steinhoff will work to implement the Maturity Extension Transaction on or before 30 June
    2023.

    Louis du Preez, Steinhoff Chief Executive Officer and Management Board Member, said:

    “Taking into account the economic and other challenges currently facing the Group this is
    ultimately a very good deal for the Group. The extension allows time for the Group to realise
    the inherent value of its investments in a controlled manner. As such we are greatly
    encouraged by the progress made so far and we urge all stakeholders to support the
    finalisation and implementation of these proposals.”

    Whilst the Group believes that the Support Agreement constitutes an important and positive
    step towards the proposed extension of the Group Services Debt, there is no certainty that
    the necessary commercial and legal agreements and arrangements will be concluded to
    successfully implement the proposed transaction. Accordingly, shareholders and other
    investors in the Company are advised to exercise caution when dealing in the securities of
    the Group.

    Further information and updates will be provided to the market as and when available.

    The Company has a primary listing on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange and a secondary listing
    on the JSE Limited.
  14. Roel050 15 december 2022 10:54

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    “Taking into account the economic and other challenges currently facing the Group this is
    ultimately a very good deal for the Group. The extension allows time for the Group to realise
    the inherent value of its investments in a controlled manner. As such we are greatly
    encouraged by the progress made so far and we urge all stakeholders to support the
    finalisation and implementation of these proposals.”

    Whilst the Group believes that the Support Agreement constitutes an important and positive
    step towards the proposed extension of the Group Services Debt, there is no certainty that
    the necessary commercial and legal agreements and arrangements will be concluded to
    successfully implement the proposed transaction. Accordingly, shareholders and other
    investors in the Company are advised to exercise caution when dealing in the securities of
    the Group.

    Further information and updates will be provided to the market as and when available.
  16. Caramba1 15 december 2022 11:17

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    Jan de Man schreef op 15 december 2022 11:09:

    De rente op leningen verandert vrijwel niet! Dit aandeel
    gaat gewoon naar 0
    Wie is u
  17. forum rang 7 Ron Kerstens 15 december 2022 11:18

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    posilies schreef op 14 december 2022 14:32:

    Vandaag eindelijk binnen gekregen op 0,09
    Toch niet zo makkelijk te krijgen op deze koers als de beurskoers doet denken.
    Krijg altijd pijn in mijn buik als ik dit soort postings zie :-(

    50% verlies in 1 dag.
  18. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 15 december 2022 11:23

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    Jan de Man schreef op 15 december 2022 11:09:

    De rente op leningen verandert vrijwel niet! Dit aandeel
    gaat gewoon naar 0
    De rente en de schuld verdwijnt natuurlijk als de deal rond is.
  19. Jan de Man 15 december 2022 11:35

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    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 15 december 2022 11:23:

    [...]
    De rente en de schuld verdwijnt natuurlijk als de deal rond is.
    Een deal is een ver van uw bed show
  20. forum rang 4 Wiema 15 december 2022 11:35

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    De koersdaling wordt veroorzaakt doordat men een delisting aanhaalt in het persbericht. Daar zit geen enkele zittende aandeelhouder op te wachten.

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    schreef:

    The ultimate holding company of the restructured Group is anticipated to be an unlisted company.
    irhosted.profiledata.co.za/steinhoff/...
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