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  1. Ridethewave 11 maart 2016 13:15
    Goedemiddag mr Black
    nav video van gisteren en uw opmerkingen dat u voor gartley nog iets wilde tekenen, heb ik een voorschot genomen. Was meteen goede oefening.
    Zie : invst.ly/1bdbb
    Echter in de video wordt niet aangegeven wat mag en wat moet mbt de candles. U had in uw plaatje mbt cypher wel eea wat mocht niet mocht bij gartley niet van toepassing?

    trouwens is het niet mogelijk om mijn instellingen mbt fibo te saven? mijn chart layout heb ik wel kunnen opslaan. Fibo's nog niet, weet u hoe?
  2. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 13:50
    quote:

    Zen Master DGT schreef op 11 maart 2016 13:26:

    VS en Duitsland hebben geen Bank Index waar je in kan handelen?
    Zekers wel! US ETFs XLF, KRE, IYF. Europa heeft de SX7E en SX7P (DJ Stoxx Banks).
  3. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 13:57
    quote:

    T. Forstmann schreef op 11 maart 2016 13:50:

    [...]
    Zekers wel! US ETFs XLF, KRE, IYF. Europa heeft de SX7E en SX7P (DJ Stoxx Banks).
    Je bent net een wandelende encyclopedie!

    Fondsen, fibo's, indexen, grafieken, etc etc!

    Zou je iets mee moeten doen ;-)
  4. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 14:02
    Stonden toevallig op 1 van de tabbladen binnen TWS. Lynx heeft standaard een tabblad met alle belangrijke ETFs, wel handig!

    Maar point taken: misschien moet ik eens een keer een echt vak gaan leren :-P
  5. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 14:10
    Staan helaas niet op mijn cfd lijst.

    quote:

    T. Forstmann schreef op 11 maart 2016 13:50:

    [...]
    Zekers wel! US ETFs XLF, KRE, IYF. Europa heeft de SX7E en SX7P (DJ Stoxx Banks).
  6. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 14:13
    Door die theling grote maffe moves gisteren ook voor stuk kleinere posities genomen. Handelen in chicken sjith modus. Baal er nu goed van. De winsten in verhouding tot de moves is ook chicken sjithish.
  7. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 14:51
    quote:

    T. Forstmann schreef op 11 maart 2016 14:02:

    Maar point taken: misschien moet ik eens een keer een echt vak gaan leren :-P
    Is het te doen trouwens, hiervan rond komen? Of is dat alleen ONN en Zen gegeven?
    Niet tot antwoorden verplicht trouwens, gaat mij niets aan.
    Als hobby kost het i.i.g. geld.
  8. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 15:10
    Nou, het is verdomd lastig, laat ik het daar maar op houden!

    Bovendien is het niet echt een leuke job: vrij eenzaam, veel stress etc. Als carrière-advies zou ik het willen afraden, tenzij het 100% je passie is.
  9. [verwijderd] 11 maart 2016 15:24
    Eigenlijk weet ik het ook niet, vraag me over een paar jaar nog maar eens, als ik het dan nog doe :-S

    Wellicht dat deze anekdote het beste antwoord geeft:
    quote:

    schreef:

    Right from the beginning, I was losing money fairly consistently. It was pretty clear I didn't have a clue how to trade from the floor. I watched traders that appeared to me to be making money. I tried to understand what they were doing. I made an effort to try to join different traders at lunch or having coffee.

    There was this one "old guy" who was always on the floor, but stood off in the background. I went over to him one day and introduced myself to him. He cut my introduction short and said he tried not to make acquaintances with traders on the floor. He said traders come and go too fast. He said "if your still here a year from now, then we'll talk." Then he turned and walked away. He said it in a kind voice so I didn't find him rude.

    Over the course of the following year I found many different ways to lose money. One particularly prominent member offered me some advice one day, and even let me participate in part of one of his trades. The "prominent trader" lost about $800,000, and shrugged it off as a cost of doing business. He just kept on selling "teennies".

    One older trader in the pit had a heart attack and died. Several traders were never seen again (obviously put out of business). And two brothers I talked to often, made millions. They had thought something was going on and were long big before the deal. They hadn't let me in on their guess.

    Obviously, I didn't want to talk to anyone anymore to find out how they traded to make money. I still had some capital left. I just put my head down and started trading. I became a scalper, just buying and selling every moment trying to make an eight or scratch. I threw out the "annual reports and 10Ks". I stopped reading the newspaper. I had to survive. I didn't want to leave a place were there was the chance to maybe someday make millions like the brothers did.

    Somehow, I made it through my first year. I got lucky and caught the 78 October massacre being long a bunch of puts. (The brothers were long everything and nearly went broke in the massacre.)

    One day, I was wandering the floor and saw the "old guy". I remembered what he had said to me about if I could survive a year. I was suddenly filled with pride. Sure it had been tough, but I realized I had survived my first year! I was still here! I had seen a lot. I was now "one of the boys". I walked over to the "old guy" thinking I was now gonna be able to talk to him. I started the conversation saying "hey, you were right about how hard it is to make it through the first year."

    He cut me short and said "George, if you make it through another year, we'll talk." And he walked away.

    Every year times were tough. Every year times were great. Every year something new and unexpected happened, many times over. I know if I saw that "old guy" now twenty years later he would still say "George, if you make it through another year, we'll talk."
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