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YOUNGMAN geplaats nieuwe BOD op SAAB

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  1. [verwijderd] 25 februari 2012 18:02
    Lieve "aline", wil je echt vernederd worden door me? schreef AX lover.
    ik vraag me af, wie er achter zó'n AX lover zit. een brute beer of een zachtaardige oud-ingenieur uit de automobielindustrie.
    Maar zoals vaak AX: je hebt helemaal gelijk, mijn excuses. Maar ik hoef niet vernederd te worden hoor. Ik ben geen masochist!
  2. [verwijderd] 26 februari 2012 10:07
    quote:

    AX lover schreef op 24 februari 2012 23:08:

    [...]

    Lieve "aline", wil je echt vernederd worden door me?

    Met alle respect hoor, maar volgens mij is dit een moment waarop je jezelf zou moeten afvragen of je 'hobby' niet uit de hand loopt.

  3. [verwijderd] 27 februari 2012 14:20
    quote:

    Calm Down & Cheer Up schreef:

    [quote alias=AX lover id=6143907 date=201202242308]
    [...]

    Lieve "aline", wil je echt vernederd worden door me?

    [/quote]

    Met alle respect hoor, maar volgens mij is dit een moment waarop je jezelf zou moeten afvragen of je 'hobby' niet uit de hand loopt.

    Nog een kritische blik op de aanwezige "alles-weters"
  4. [verwijderd] 27 februari 2012 17:51
    quote:

    Lazy Speculator schreef op 27 februari 2012 14:20:

    [...]

    Nog een kritische blik op de aanwezige "alles-weters"
    Maar hij had wel weer gelijk. Dus misschien kun je beter eens luisteren ipv iedere keer de boodschapper af te schieten.
  5. [verwijderd] 27 februari 2012 21:13
    quote:

    greenspanalan schreef:

    [quote alias=Lazy Speculator id=6146253 date=201202271420]
    [...]

    Nog een kritische blik op de aanwezige "alles-weters"
    [/quote]
    Maar hij had wel weer gelijk. Dus misschien kun je beter eens luisteren ipv iedere keer de boodschapper af te schieten.
    Als je het gevolgd had dan wist je dat het niet gaat OF hij gelijk heeft, maar op de manier waarop hij het brengt.
  6. AX lover 27 februari 2012 23:03
    quote:

    Lazy Speculator schreef op 27 februari 2012 21:13:

    [...]

    Als je het gevolgd had dan wist je dat het niet gaat OF hij gelijk heeft, maar op de manier waarop hij het brengt.
    Want ik word immers altijd zo netjes behandelt hier...
  7. [verwijderd] 3 maart 2012 10:35
    You are browsing the archive for News. More on Youngman meeting the receivers

    March 2, 2012 in News

    As we reported below Youngman’s delegation has met the receivers today for further negotiations based on their indicative bid. A short quote from the report at di.se shows that they seem to be one of the parties who are very eager to get a deal done:

    “They’d rather not go home without getting the green light that they can buy,” says a source familiar with the process.

    I know, di’s sources are infamous but let’s just go with them here.

    Pang Qingnian told P4 West on Friday that the company has a plan and is hopeful to get the chance to buy Saab.

    “We will do our best anyway. If Sweden gives us the opportunity to buy Saab, we will certainly do our best to revive Saab.”

    But the administrators have multiple bids to consider. Next week, they meet with more stakeholders. Among other things, stated Indian Mahindra that they made an indicative bid.

    Youngman’s indicative bid shall be around two billion crowns. One source describes the first offer is consciously laid low. Youngman has not counted in the profitable parts company Saab Parts, in which the state has assets of 2.2 billion crowns. A final bid will therefore be significantly higher.

    From the last paragraph one could assume that the bid to buy Saab as a whole should at least be around 4.2 billion crowns plus additional funds to run the company and develop new models. In Youngman’s case those additional funds were said to be 12 billion Swedish crowns. I wonder how long that amount would have to last for the task of developing a complete model range is anything but cheap and additionally those first years until sales numbers reach a certain point will burn quite a bit of cash.

    12 billion crowns translate to about $ 1.8 billion or 1.36 billion Euro. While being a huge sum when lying on a table it is burnt quickly when running a car company. So I bet the receivers want to hear how every bidder can handle those initial losses as noone wants to find Saab in a deja vu in two years again. Even more as with most likely three remaining bidders there is a choice.

    The receivers are doing a good job so far. Things are quietly running. It can surely be frustrating for us who want news but it is good for the process itself. Zamir Ahmed also told us he was very satisfied with their work. After the Lofalk sitcom we experienced last year this is pretty encouraging.

    Youngman want a quick decision. Whilst this is understandable I don’t think the receivers are willing to take any pressure from that. Everybody in there, the administration as well as the bidders are aware that time is crucial. I’d hope that this will lead to straight talks without playing games. And in the very end to the best possible outcome for Saab.
  8. [verwijderd] 3 maart 2012 18:05
    quote:

    unaspected schreef op 3 maart 2012 10:35:

    You are browsing the archive for News. More on Youngman meeting the receivers

    March 2, 2012 in News

    As we reported below Youngman’s delegation has met the receivers today for further negotiations based on their indicative bid. A short quote from the report at di.se shows that they seem to be one of the parties who are very eager to get a deal done:

    “They’d rather not go home without getting the green light that they can buy,” says a source familiar with the process.

    I know, di’s sources are infamous but let’s just go with them here.

    Pang Qingnian told P4 West on Friday that the company has a plan and is hopeful to get the chance to buy Saab.

    “We will do our best anyway. If Sweden gives us the opportunity to buy Saab, we will certainly do our best to revive Saab.”

    But the administrators have multiple bids to consider. Next week, they meet with more stakeholders. Among other things, stated Indian Mahindra that they made an indicative bid.

    Youngman’s indicative bid shall be around two billion crowns. One source describes the first offer is consciously laid low. Youngman has not counted in the profitable parts company Saab Parts, in which the state has assets of 2.2 billion crowns. A final bid will therefore be significantly higher.

    From the last paragraph one could assume that the bid to buy Saab as a whole should at least be around 4.2 billion crowns plus additional funds to run the company and develop new models. In Youngman’s case those additional funds were said to be 12 billion Swedish crowns. I wonder how long that amount would have to last for the task of developing a complete model range is anything but cheap and additionally those first years until sales numbers reach a certain point will burn quite a bit of cash.

    12 billion crowns translate to about $ 1.8 billion or 1.36 billion Euro. While being a huge sum when lying on a table it is burnt quickly when running a car company. So I bet the receivers want to hear how every bidder can handle those initial losses as noone wants to find Saab in a deja vu in two years again. Even more as with most likely three remaining bidders there is a choice.

    The receivers are doing a good job so far. Things are quietly running. It can surely be frustrating for us who want news but it is good for the process itself. Zamir Ahmed also told us he was very satisfied with their work. After the Lofalk sitcom we experienced last year this is pretty encouraging.

    Youngman want a quick decision. Whilst this is understandable I don’t think the receivers are willing to take any pressure from that. Everybody in there, the administration as well as the bidders are aware that time is crucial. I’d hope that this will lead to straight talks without playing games. And in the very end to the best possible outcome for Saab.
    Ja dus 2 miljard Kronen voor de boedel. Die andere 2,2 miljard is voor de onderdelen die nu van het NDO zijn. Dus voor de curator gaat het om 220 miljoen euro.
  9. [verwijderd] 4 maart 2012 07:24
    Sunday, 04 Mar 2012

    It is reported that high end auto distributor Pangda Automobile Trade won approval from the China Securities Regulatory Commission to issue CNY 3.8 billion worth of corporate bonds.

    The company will first issue CNY 2.2 billion worth of six-year bonds with a floating interest, five year and seven-year bonds at fixed interest rates. The company had lost 45 million euros due to SaaB bankruptcy last year and had sold 22 properties for CNY 175 million late last year.

    One month before SaaB entered bankruptcy protection, Pangda and Youngman Automobile Group had agreed to acquire SaaB for EUR 100 million. The acquisition bid failed because General Motors did not support the proposal on concern that such a deal will harm its interest.

    A day after SaaB became bankrupt on December 19, Pangda said it will make impairment provisions of 45 million euros which were already paid to SAAB.

    Mr Pang Qinghua company chairman said whether the loss can be recovered depends on the results of the final auction of SaaB assets.

    Some industry analysts said the company sold its properties due to increasing pressures on its auto business and said the disposals could generate financial returns.

    Source - 163.com) (www.steelguru.com)
  10. [verwijderd] 4 maart 2012 08:06
    quote:

    unaspected schreef op 4 maart 2012 07:24:

    Sunday, 04 Mar 2012

    It is reported that high end auto distributor Pangda Automobile Trade won approval from the China Securities Regulatory Commission to issue CNY 3.8 billion worth of corporate bonds.

    The company will first issue CNY 2.2 billion worth of six-year bonds with a floating interest, five year and seven-year bonds at fixed interest rates. The company had lost 45 million euros due to SaaB bankruptcy last year and had sold 22 properties for CNY 175 million late last year.

    One month before SaaB entered bankruptcy protection, Pangda and Youngman Automobile Group had agreed to acquire SaaB for EUR 100 million. The acquisition bid failed because General Motors did not support the proposal on concern that such a deal will harm its interest.

    A day after SaaB became bankrupt on December 19, Pangda said it will make impairment provisions of 45 million euros which were already paid to SAAB.

    Mr Pang Qinghua company chairman said whether the loss can be recovered depends on the results of the final auction of SaaB assets.

    Some industry analysts said the company sold its properties due to increasing pressures on its auto business and said the disposals could generate financial returns.

    Source - 163.com) (www.steelguru.com)
    En weer een partij die zware schade lijdt door Muller
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