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  1. jrxs4all 29 mei 2008 09:28
    quote:

    dct schreef:

    alle "market" kooporders zijn verwerkt als verkoop, vandaar de daling ;-)))))

    Blijven dromen.............
    Het lukte die Pentium 2 natuurlijk niet om alle verkooporders in 3 uur erdoor te jassen :)

    Wel fijne werktijden, zouden ze nog mensen nodig hebben ?

    JR
  2. dct 29 mei 2008 09:34
    quote:

    jrxs4all schreef:

    Het lukte die Pentium 2 natuurlijk niet om alle verkooporders in 3 uur erdoor te jassen :)
    Denk dat ze als vervanging een computer bij Dell hebben besteld. Dus nu is het wachten tot UPS de straat in rijd.
  3. [verwijderd] 30 mei 2008 11:58
    quote:

    lichtflits schreef:

    Een artikel over de daling in Vietnam.
    www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602...
    `Embryonic Market'

    ``We're increasing our investments in Vietnam even more,'' said Beat Lenherr, who oversees more than $20 billion of assets as Singapore-based chief global strategist at LGT Capital Management. ``This is an embryonic market that had a strong birth. Now the baby is struggling a little, but we think it'll get its strength back.''

    even kijken wat de dong gaat doen,maar dit kan een zeer goede kans worden.
  4. jrxs4all 30 mei 2008 12:02
    quote:

    jan wandelaar schreef:

    [quote=lichtflits]
    Een artikel over de daling in Vietnam.
    www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602...
    [/quote]

    `Embryonic Market'

    ``We're increasing our investments in Vietnam even more,'' said Beat Lenherr, who oversees more than $20 billion of assets as Singapore-based chief global strategist at LGT Capital Management. ``This is an embryonic market that had a strong birth. Now the baby is struggling a little, but we think it'll get its strength back.''

    even kijken wat de dong gaat doen,maar dit kan een zeer goede kans worden.
    Die stijgt weer een beetje, net als altijd met de dollar mee:

    fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=EUR&c=U...

    De dong daalde ook vorig jaar zo, alleen werd dat toen gecompenseerd door de stijging van de beurs,

    JR
  5. Pinoooo 30 mei 2008 14:00
    Dear Investors,

    The international media has given Vietnam a disproportionate level of negative press over the last few weeks. While some of the commentary may be justified, we are concerned by what we believe will eventually be seen as an exaggeration of the dangers facing the country.

    There is no doubt that Vietnam is now facing a raft of economic challenges that would appear to threaten the considerable economic gains achieved over the last ten years. These are certainly alarming, but we strongly believe that they are a product of internal monetary policy issues and Vietnam’s recent success, and much less a product of the international issues currently affecting much of the investment world. In light of these developments we would like to update you on these challenges and what they mean for our funds.

    Vietnam is now seeing higher than usual inflation, a high trade deficit and a depreciating currency. These developments stand in stark contrast to the exceptional economic performance that the country has achieved over the last ten years.

    Inflation year-on-year to May 2008 (announced 27 May 2008) is 25.2 percent; much higher than previously anticipated. This increase is a combination of both cost-push factors – such as energy and food prices, as experienced throughout Asia recently – and demand-pull factors, namely the significant monetary and credit expansion that occurred late last year.

    Unfortunately, although the Government has implemented a number of fiscal and monetary tightening policies, it will take time for these to have an effect. As a consequence, given the high month-on-month inflation gains experienced over recent months, we believe that inflation is unlikely to top-out until it reaches over 30 percent in the fourth quarter of this year. For 2009, we believe inflation will quickly decline to less than 12 percent, possibly lower, as the Government’s new policies are reflected in the annualised numbers.

    The trade deficit for the first five months of 2008 is expected to surpass USD15 billion, seemingly on its way to over USD30 billion for the full year; a considerable increase on the 2007 deficit of USD12 billion. Whilst this is alarming, it is important to understand the details behind such statistics.

    Vietnam’s top import items are machinery and equipment (“M&E”), construction materials and refined fuel. We can all agree that the supply of M&E and construction materials is integral to the development of an emerging economy. In Vietnam’s case many of these items must be imported, as the country simply does not have the factories to produce such equipment and materials locally. However, this is quickly changing. Much of the equipment being imported is building the factories and infrastructure needed for the country’s development. For example, today Vietnam is a net importer of steel, but it will soon produce and refine sufficient amounts to satisfy domestic consumption.

    It is also worth noting that unlike most countries, Vietnam is self-sufficient in terms of crude oil production, but unfortunately in the absence of an oil refinery it has to export 100 percent of production and then re-import it as refined fuel. This will also change very soon as the first refinery will come on-stream in 2009.

    While the trade deficit will certainly be high in 2008, we do not believe it will extrapolate out to USD30 billion for the following reasons:

    - a number of measures have been implemented to restrict imports of non-productive and non-essential goods;
    - after the Government hinted at restrictive measures months ago there was an immediate importation of goods and hording of materials in advance of the implementation of the anticipated measures (ie. a temporary surge). The restrictive measures, including lower quotas and higher import tariffs, have now been implemented;
    - we believe that further restrictive measures will be implemented;
    - the cost of capital (particularly debt) has increased dramatically, which will dampen business activities and reduce imports.

    The Vietnamese Dong (“VND”) as at 30 May 2008 was trading at an official rate of VND16,086 plus/minus 1 percent against the United States Dollar (“USD”). In the unofficial market, however, the USD is buying VND17,200. This is a 7.3 percent depreciation since the beginning of the year. Clearly, some further downward movement must be expected, but where it eventually ends up depends, of course, on both economic factors and direct government policy.

    A combination of the tightening monetary policies and distaste for negative real interest rates on debt paper has caused interest rates and bond yields to rise significantly. We are currently seeing interest rates of 14 to 18 percent for short-term VND deposits at local and international banks. Yields on long-term bonds have now surpassed 20 percent. This is expected to continue until inflation is under control.

    High interest rates are obviously going to put pressure on those businesses that are already highly leveraged or require debt capital for growth. We can even expect that this will result in business failures, but view this as necessary “cleansing process” that the commercial sector must progress through if Vietnam is to continue to move forward. Over the last five years Vietnamese enthusiasm for business has simply lead to the establishment of too many companies that do not have the technical skill, management expertise, or capital to be sustainable. In a similar vein, a number of large conglomerates have over-diversified into non-core fields of business.

    So clearly there are problems. But we strongly believe that the current situation is a consequence of major “growing pains” stemming from the exceptional economic growth achieved over the last 10 years, combined with weak monetary policies. One year ago, it was impossible for anyone in Vietnam to believe that an economy can grow too quickly. Today we have clear evidence that this is in fact the case. How long these “growing pains” will prevail depends on the extent to which the Government implements the right fiscal and monetary policies. Certainly, the country’s leaders appreciate the seriousness of the situation. There have been many lessons since doi moi began on how to manage a market-based economy. Perhaps today is their biggest challenge to date, but few people that understand Vietnam can question the Vietnamese propensity to learn and overcome considerable challenges.


    Impact on the Vietnam Opportunity Fund
    During the second half of 2007 and into 2008 VOF was a net seller in the listed market. In the last six months of 2007 VOF liquidated more than USD120 million in equities and used the proceeds, and the funds raised in November 2007, for reinvestment into private equity deals.

    Today the VOF portfolio has about 30 percent of its NAV in the listed market. The VN-Index has declined 16 days straight (as at 27 May 2008) and is currently at 420. This is a decline of 20 percent since 30 April 2008. VOF is also exposed to the OTC market by about 20 percent, and this market normally lags the VN-Index in valuation by about a month.

    Given the continued decline in the VN-Index, and subsequent decline in the OTC market, the equity portfolio will have a negative impact on the valuation of the VOF portfolio at the end of the month. Also, in accordance with our valuation practices we will also review VOF’s private equity investments and will c
  6. [verwijderd] 30 mei 2008 16:14
    quote:

    jrxs4all schreef:

    [quote=jan wandelaar]
    [quote=lichtflits]
    Een artikel over de daling in Vietnam.
    www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602...
    [/quote]

    `Embryonic Market'

    ``We're increasing our investments in Vietnam even more,'' said Beat Lenherr, who oversees more than $20 billion of assets as Singapore-based chief global strategist at LGT Capital Management. ``This is an embryonic market that had a strong birth. Now the baby is struggling a little, but we think it'll get its strength back.''

    even kijken wat de dong gaat doen,maar dit kan een zeer goede kans worden.
    [/quote]

    Die stijgt weer een beetje, net als altijd met de dollar mee:

    fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=EUR&c=U...

    De dong daalde ook vorig jaar zo, alleen werd dat toen gecompenseerd door de stijging van de beurs,

    JR
    een kleine hypothese

    volgens mij is er een dollar peg met de dong.
    momenteel bestaat er kans om deze los te laten,men dwingt vietnam hier toe.
    er is nl een gigantische inflatie en oplopend,wanneer de dong zal stijgen tov de dollar en men echte maatregelen neemt om de inflatie te bestrijden word vietnam een voorbeeld voor andere dollarpeg landen.
    kan de beurs daar weer boomen.
  7. jrxs4all 30 mei 2008 16:28
    quote:

    jan wandelaar schreef:

    een kleine hypothese

    volgens mij is er een dollar peg met de dong.
    momenteel bestaat er kans om deze los te laten,men dwingt vietnam hier toe.
    er is nl een gigantische inflatie en oplopend,wanneer de dong zal stijgen tov de dollar en men echte maatregelen neemt om de inflatie te bestrijden word vietnam een voorbeeld voor andere dollarpeg landen.
    kan de beurs daar weer boomen.
    Dat is geen hypothese maar een feit en geldt in meer of mindere mate voor veel Aziatische valuta's:

    fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=EUR&c=U...

    Bedoeling lijkt me eerder om de dong te laten devalueren, dit om zo de export te stimuleren en de betalingsbalans te verbeteren.

    Veel Aziatische landen houden hun munt het liefst constant tov de dollar. Daar gaat de meeste export naar toe en dan is een stabiele en in ieder geval niet stijgende koers gunstig,

    JR
  8. [verwijderd] 30 mei 2008 16:39
    quote:

    jrxs4all schreef:

    [quote=jan wandelaar]
    een kleine hypothese

    volgens mij is er een dollar peg met de dong.
    momenteel bestaat er kans om deze los te laten,men dwingt vietnam hier toe.
    er is nl een gigantische inflatie en oplopend,wanneer de dong zal stijgen tov de dollar en men echte maatregelen neemt om de inflatie te bestrijden word vietnam een voorbeeld voor andere dollarpeg landen.
    kan de beurs daar weer boomen.
    [/quote]

    Dat is geen hypothese maar een feit en geldt in meer of mindere mate voor veel Aziatische valuta's:

    fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=EUR&c=U...

    Bedoeling lijkt me eerder om de dong te laten devalueren, dit om zo de export te stimuleren en de betalingsbalans te verbeteren.

    Veel Aziatische landen houden hun munt het liefst constant tov de dollar. Daar gaat de meeste export naar toe en dan is een stabiele en in ieder geval niet stijgende koers gunstig,

    JR
    zo te zien heb je gelijk en door de langzamere groei zal de dong eerst zakken.

    www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601...

    een verzamelwerkje info over het gebied

    www.rgemonitor.com/480/Vietnam,_Cambodia_and_Laos
  9. [verwijderd] 2 juni 2008 13:51
    quote:

    alias okiedokie schreef:

    VN-index nu 414, dus zakt gestaag door. Bodem op 250, niveau 2004/2005 ?
    vandaag 408
    18e dag op rij met verlies!!!
    morgen laatste dag boven de 400...

    opvallend is dat het AAB Vietnam Certificaat de laatste anderhalve week "mooi" tussen de 3,60 en 3,80 blijft liggen
  10. [verwijderd] 2 juni 2008 16:48
    Misschien is al het geld even aan de kant gezet van het certificaat ?

    Opvallend uit het stuk van Bloomberg hier boven dat de dagelijkse omzet maar zo laag is in vietnam.
  11. [verwijderd] 2 juni 2008 21:44
    Japanese Investors Upbeat about Viet Nam's Stock Market
    www.vnstocknews.com/2008/06/japanese-...

    Japanese securities investors still pin high hope on the potential of Viet Nam’s stock market, saying it is changing and becoming more professional, and now is a good time to buy in shares before the VN-index bounces back, the New Hanoi newspaper reported.

    The local market is supported by many factors for further development, Akira Futamoto, an expert on Vietnamese securities market said.

    First, Vietnamese people have strong will and determination, which can help the country overcome the challenge.

    Second, 70% of Vietnamese population is under 40 years old and qualified, and they are the biggest asset to develop the country.

    Third, Viet Nam’s consumption capacity is raised thanks to the population of 84 million people and improved living quality. The stock market will benefit from the strong economy fueled by increased consumption demand.

    The Director of New-S Securities Toshiaki Nishikawa forecast the Vietnamese bourse could begin recovery by late this year. However, it may take a year and half before the VN-index returns to its highest level of late 2007. More Japanese investors will buy in shares on the local market in the coming time, he predicted.
  12. [verwijderd] 3 juni 2008 12:44
    quote:

    lijkenpikker schreef:

    vandaag 408
    18e dag op rij met verlies!!!
    morgen laatste dag boven de 400...
    [/quote]
    geheel volgens schema slot op 401;
    morgen voor de 20ste achtereenvolgende keer down en voor het eerst onder de 400

    [quote=lijkenpikker]
    opvallend is dat het AAB Vietnam Certificaat de laatste anderhalve week "mooi" tussen de 3,60 en 3,80 blijft liggen
    dat kon ook niet uitblijven;

    aand. AAB Vietnam Certificaat
    Laatste Volume Tijd
    Laatste 3,43 180 12:15:04
    Verschil -0,17 -4,7222 %
  13. dct 3 juni 2008 12:49
    quote:

    lijkenpikker schreef:

    dat kon ook niet uitblijven;

    aand. AAB Vietnam Certificaat
    Laatste Volume Tijd
    Laatste 3,43 180 12:15:04
    Verschil -0,17 -4,7222 %

    Die trade komt op mijn naam :-), krijg ik de rest ook nog?
  14. dct 3 juni 2008 13:51
    quote:

    m1155 schreef:

    volume van 180, wow
    wel iets meer volume hoor vandaag. ik heb staan 28.655 op dit moment

    Die 180 was het laatst gehandelde aantal (toevallig door mij)
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